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Edson vs Edison -- Hi all, please note that the protagonist's name is 'Edson', not "Edison". It has been confirmed numerous times on Twitter and in interviews by the original developers, and even the decription written by Rare on the Rare Revealed video for Dream (Rare Revealed: A Rare Look at Dream) notes "...the adventure of boy hero Edson and his dog Dinger" (the devs in the video even say "Edson"). Please do not revert the name to "Edison" because this is 100% incorrect -- just because you may have not heard the name "Edson" before and are only familiar with Thomas Edison does not somehow mean that the character in this video game was named "Edison". We need to keep this page factual.
==Edson vs. Edison==
 
<p>Hi all, please note that the protagonist's name is 'Edson' (not "Edison"). This has been discussed many times with the developers, and "Edison" has NEVER been used. Every page online that uses "Edison" uses invalid citations or else they cite pages that used invalid citations. Please do NOT use the name "Edison" anywhere in this article since it is 100% factually incorrect! Here are just a handful of the many valid citations available (from official sources or from the actual developers):</p>
The ONLY official reference to it being "Edison" is a single caption on the Dreaming of Banjo video on Rare Replay at approximately 40 seconds in — This caption is clearly a typo since the person talking (Ed Bryan) is clearly saying "Edson" and has referred to the character outside of this video as 'Edson' numerous times. References:
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w72kj20YNA0 (Rare: "...the adventure of boy hero Edson and his dog Dinger")</p>
#Rare Revealed: A Rare Look at Dream, in the description: https://youtu.be/w72kj20YNA0 ("…the adventure of boy hero Edson…")
<p>https://twitter.com/mingellasfella/status/610541779293708290?s=21&fbclid=IwAR35YLsO7ffKaZRdlx1fYC73v6Qf4sSjXm9A8x9x0TkgwzZB_I8r_rsdEQU (Ed Bryan: "Edson)"</p>
#Ed Bryan June 15th 2015: <span style="opacity: 0; position: absolute; white-space: pre-wrap;">https://twitter.com/mingellasfella/status/610541779293708290?s=20</span> <span style="opacity: 0; position: absolute; white-space: pre-wrap;">https://twitter.com/mingellasfella/status/610541779293708290?s=20</span> https://twitter.com/mingellasfella/status/610541779293708290?s=20
<p>https://twitter.com/winkysteve/status/702177176091803648?s=21&fbclid=IwAR3xvCmbfSH4mBX70xvUv1Zgd_c_XWSozAfWWYvApaXshf5r2KdKcs-cswM (Steve Mayles: "...Edson expression tests")</p>
#Gregg Mayles February 5th 2017: https://twitter.com/Ghoulyboy/status/828369691131445248?s=20
<p>https://twitter.com/rareltd/status/643457190754406400?s=21&fbclid=IwAR1mucHCDT10mjbhftw-Xc4wH6is-MuA_1QgYW2WCWBetA6_W_aVihQ4RaM (Rare: "...Dream's hero Edson")</p>
#Rare March 20th 2015: https://twitter.com/rareltd/status/578965642822447105?s=21
<p>https://twitter.com/ghoulyboy/status/828369691131445248?s=21&fbclid=IwAR2ORGDS5vHPQU3_xO9AoPL66FCauC98JL8pO8hMHMVAsbBGYUFYUnCmzWM (Gregg Mayles: "That's the village Edson lived in")</p>
#Rare September 14th 2015: https://twitter.com/RareLtd/status/643457190754406400?s=20
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#Steve Mayles February 23rd 2016 https://twitter.com/WinkySteve/status/702177176091803648?s=20
<p>THE TITLE OF THIS PAGE AND THE TITLE OF THE IMAGE BOX NEED TO BE CHANGED FROM "EDISON" TO 'EDSON'. I do not know how to do this, so help would be much appreciated.--[[User:RdCrestdBreegull|RdCrestdBreegull]] ([[User talk:RdCrestdBreegull|talk]])
[[User:RdCrestdBreegull|RdCrestdBreegull]] ([[User talk:RdCrestdBreegull|talk]]) 02:46, July 29, 2019 (UTC)<span style="opacity: 0; position: absolute; white-space: pre-wrap;">[https://twitter.com/mingellasfella/status/610541779293708290?s=20 htt//twitter.com/mingellasfella/status]</span>
:The captions that were added in the video are official though. They are from Rare Replay. In the game, you can put subtitles on or off, and when you do put the subtitles on, you see that they say "Edison". I'm sure that the correct name is indeed "Edson", but since "Edison" was already used officially before, we have to mention both. I own Rare Replay and I know it is a fact that they do call him "Edison" in the game. --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 03:51, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
::The captions in the video you linked were added by the non-Rare pirate uploader, as far as I'm aware. I went into Rare Replay and could not find a caption option -- would you please advise me how to turn on the captions in Rare Replay so that I may check myself? And either way, the character has <i>never</i> been referred to as 'Edison' by <i>any</i> Rare employee, former or current. <i>If</i> those captions do appear in the actual Rare Replay version of the video (please advise how to activate this, because I tried and could not figure it out), they are clearly typos as the speakers are very clearly saying 'Edson'. And <i>if</i> those captions prove official, then I will talk directly to Rare and the employees to get it confirmed that it was a typo, and that will trump your ridiculous citation. We will not use typos as a validation to perpetuate misinformation, and that is not the intent of the wiki. This "Edison" thing needs to end, and I will see to it that it does. Please advise on how to activate the captions in Rare Replay, and this will move forward from there. --[[User:RdCrestdBreegull|RdCrestdBreegull]] ([[User talk:RdCrestdBreegull|talk]])
:::In the main menu of the game, press the "Start" button (the button with three lines on it that replaces the usual "Start" button on controllers), which leads you to a "Global Options" menu. First thing you should see in that menu is the option to activate or deactivate subtitles. I just checked on my own copy of the game, and yes, the subtitles are the exact same as the one from the YouTube video, with the mention of "Edison", so the uploader didn't add fan subtitles. Also even if it is a typo, it was used in something official Rare-related, so we should still mention it. If it's confirmed to be a typo, then we could change it to "Edson, also known as Edison due to a typo in Rare Replay, is...", or something like that. I also believe that "Edson" is the real name for the character, don't worry, but since the name "Edison" is mentionned in something official, even if it's a typo, it should still be mentionned on the article. --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 08:50, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
::::I checked and although "Edison" does appear in the subtitles at around the 0:40 mark, it is clearly a typo as the speaker (Ed Bryan) is clearly saying "Edson". I have done my research, have collaborated with multiple staff from the website Rare Gamer, and there is no doubt that this is simply a typo. I have also another references from Rare specifically saying that the character is <i>not</i> called "Edison": https://twitter.com/rareltd/status/578965642822447105?s=21 . There is no need to even mention the word "Edison" on this page — Nintendo has mistakenly referred to Dixie Kong as "Daisy Kong" in the past; does that mean that her wiki page should say "Dixie Kong, sometimes referred to as Daisy Kong"? This needs to stop. [[User:RdCrestdBreegull|RdCrestdBreegull]] ([[User talk:RdCrestdBreegull|talk]]) 03:02, 29 July 2019 (UTC)